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	<title>Comments on: Cloudstreet by Tim Winton</title>
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	<description>Random thoughts and observations from Mount Gambier</description>
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		<title>By: Noemi</title>
		<link>http://gorey.com.au/archives/170/comment-page-3#comment-55650</link>
		<dc:creator>Noemi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 03:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Winton&#039;s novels can be difficult to read because he writes with such strong imagery and atmosphere. 

So, I usually purchase two versions of the book. A paperback copy and an audio book. These audio books are read by actors and totally bring the whole thing to life. I find I can concentrate on the imagery and the plot twists, etc, when not having to read the text. 

Then, after listening to the story at least once I read the paperback a couple of times.

Wonderful way to cope with long journeys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Winton&#8217;s novels can be difficult to read because he writes with such strong imagery and atmosphere. </p>
<p>So, I usually purchase two versions of the book. A paperback copy and an audio book. These audio books are read by actors and totally bring the whole thing to life. I find I can concentrate on the imagery and the plot twists, etc, when not having to read the text. </p>
<p>Then, after listening to the story at least once I read the paperback a couple of times.</p>
<p>Wonderful way to cope with long journeys.</p>
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		<title>By: jess</title>
		<link>http://gorey.com.au/archives/170/comment-page-3#comment-55615</link>
		<dc:creator>jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does everyone know about the mini series coming out early next year?

They&#039;ve been filming for the past few months, and my brother got the roll of Ted Pickles. I can&#039;t really comment on the book as I’ve only just started reading it.

But I think you should definitely watch the mini series and see how it compares!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does everyone know about the mini series coming out early next year?</p>
<p>They&#8217;ve been filming for the past few months, and my brother got the roll of Ted Pickles. I can&#8217;t really comment on the book as I’ve only just started reading it.</p>
<p>But I think you should definitely watch the mini series and see how it compares!</p>
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		<title>By: Fluke</title>
		<link>http://gorey.com.au/archives/170/comment-page-3#comment-50418</link>
		<dc:creator>Fluke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the pig

he speaks and nobody but fish understands him
fish is clearly a symbol of christianity
christians primarily follow the bible
and the bible says we cant eat pigs, or any animal that is cleft footed or chews of the cud for that matter.
of course the bible was written with those messages so that the people in the time it was written wouldnt get disease and the like.

i believe that by killing the pig the lambs would have completely severed the ties with their relationship with &#039;god&#039;.
when the pig is attacked by dogs and nursed back to health by the lambs its symbolic of their slowly strengthening relationship with god, clearly demonstrated by the increasing number of religous references as the novel progresses.

Overall, the novel is filled with too many tiny details that everybody pays too much attention to, even Tim Winton. For a novel set over 20 years following the lives of people from their youths to their deaths, why do we know more about the pig than we do about Chub pickles</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the pig</p>
<p>he speaks and nobody but fish understands him<br />
fish is clearly a symbol of christianity<br />
christians primarily follow the bible<br />
and the bible says we cant eat pigs, or any animal that is cleft footed or chews of the cud for that matter.<br />
of course the bible was written with those messages so that the people in the time it was written wouldnt get disease and the like.</p>
<p>i believe that by killing the pig the lambs would have completely severed the ties with their relationship with &#8216;god&#8217;.<br />
when the pig is attacked by dogs and nursed back to health by the lambs its symbolic of their slowly strengthening relationship with god, clearly demonstrated by the increasing number of religous references as the novel progresses.</p>
<p>Overall, the novel is filled with too many tiny details that everybody pays too much attention to, even Tim Winton. For a novel set over 20 years following the lives of people from their youths to their deaths, why do we know more about the pig than we do about Chub pickles</p>
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		<title>By: Shanii</title>
		<link>http://gorey.com.au/archives/170/comment-page-3#comment-50372</link>
		<dc:creator>Shanii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m reading this book in English Literature at the moment, and I happen to think it&#039;s the most wonderfully constructed book ever created, and it happens to have been by one of our own.

If you think it doesn&#039;t have a plotline, you are completely and utterly wrong. It&#039;s plot begins with the death of the Aboriginal girl and &#039;hag&#039; woman, and is even further constructed as the two families (The Lamb&#039;s and The Pickles) come together under the one roof.

As the story goes on, we see the battles that the Australian working class is sometimes forced to deal with, and this leads us to one of the most relevant themes of the novel: the importance of family and home. Without our family, we are nothing. Our families shape who we are, and that is what Winton is trying to get across. Together they are able to pull through every challenge that comes their way.

The book is also about Fish&#039;s journey of self-discovery. If you don&#039;t understand the narrative structure, the entire novel is written through the eyes of the healthy adult version of Fish, who we know was brain-damaged when he nearly drowns. In his final moments, Fish is able to look back over his life and the lives of his family, and the novel is about him finally being able to understand.

As for the talking pig, this creature is no different to the ghosts that haunt Cloudstreet, it is used as a device in helping the reader to understand Fish&#039;s childlike frame of mind. When Lester is able to hear the pig speak, it symbolises the fact that he is able to understand where Fish is at.

Lastly, I would just like to talk you through my favourite scene of the novel. It is the one where Rose and Quick make love for the first time, in the library. Their passions and lust for one another are enough to drive away the &quot;shifty shadows&quot; that haunt Cloustreet. I think it&#039;s beautiful the way Winton is able to portray the fact that we, as people, can come together and overcome any obstacle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m reading this book in English Literature at the moment, and I happen to think it&#8217;s the most wonderfully constructed book ever created, and it happens to have been by one of our own.</p>
<p>If you think it doesn&#8217;t have a plotline, you are completely and utterly wrong. It&#8217;s plot begins with the death of the Aboriginal girl and &#8216;hag&#8217; woman, and is even further constructed as the two families (The Lamb&#8217;s and The Pickles) come together under the one roof.</p>
<p>As the story goes on, we see the battles that the Australian working class is sometimes forced to deal with, and this leads us to one of the most relevant themes of the novel: the importance of family and home. Without our family, we are nothing. Our families shape who we are, and that is what Winton is trying to get across. Together they are able to pull through every challenge that comes their way.</p>
<p>The book is also about Fish&#8217;s journey of self-discovery. If you don&#8217;t understand the narrative structure, the entire novel is written through the eyes of the healthy adult version of Fish, who we know was brain-damaged when he nearly drowns. In his final moments, Fish is able to look back over his life and the lives of his family, and the novel is about him finally being able to understand.</p>
<p>As for the talking pig, this creature is no different to the ghosts that haunt Cloudstreet, it is used as a device in helping the reader to understand Fish&#8217;s childlike frame of mind. When Lester is able to hear the pig speak, it symbolises the fact that he is able to understand where Fish is at.</p>
<p>Lastly, I would just like to talk you through my favourite scene of the novel. It is the one where Rose and Quick make love for the first time, in the library. Their passions and lust for one another are enough to drive away the &#8220;shifty shadows&#8221; that haunt Cloustreet. I think it&#8217;s beautiful the way Winton is able to portray the fact that we, as people, can come together and overcome any obstacle.</p>
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		<title>By: Metacrisis</title>
		<link>http://gorey.com.au/archives/170/comment-page-3#comment-50024</link>
		<dc:creator>Metacrisis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I happened to love this book. Someone previously mentioned that if you had more than 10 brain cells you would hate it. I beg to differ. No I don&#039;t, I&#039;m going to disagree anyway, as I don&#039;t need your permission. If you have enough intelligence to understand the book, you will realise just how very good it is. Plotline? You bet there&#039;s a plotline. Heaps of them in fact. Idiosyncracies? Of course there are. You could not connect with a character without them.
Anyway, I think it is a wonderful book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I happened to love this book. Someone previously mentioned that if you had more than 10 brain cells you would hate it. I beg to differ. No I don&#8217;t, I&#8217;m going to disagree anyway, as I don&#8217;t need your permission. If you have enough intelligence to understand the book, you will realise just how very good it is. Plotline? You bet there&#8217;s a plotline. Heaps of them in fact. Idiosyncracies? Of course there are. You could not connect with a character without them.<br />
Anyway, I think it is a wonderful book.</p>
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		<title>By: R.A</title>
		<link>http://gorey.com.au/archives/170/comment-page-3#comment-49823</link>
		<dc:creator>R.A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic novel! :D

I must go out and get/read more Tim Winton books~!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic novel! <img src='http://gorey.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I must go out and get/read more Tim Winton books~!</p>
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		<title>By: student</title>
		<link>http://gorey.com.au/archives/170/comment-page-3#comment-49326</link>
		<dc:creator>student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 10:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i thought it was weird to start, but then it came together a bit and made a little more sense. will admit though, if i didn&#039;t have to read ot for skool, i wouldn&#039;t have. second read through is what make it a classic though, so worth it to do!

I think Winton has done a great job, also love his new one breathe and went to his talk at the orpheum. was soooooo good! so good to listen to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i thought it was weird to start, but then it came together a bit and made a little more sense. will admit though, if i didn&#8217;t have to read ot for skool, i wouldn&#8217;t have. second read through is what make it a classic though, so worth it to do!</p>
<p>I think Winton has done a great job, also love his new one breathe and went to his talk at the orpheum. was soooooo good! so good to listen to.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Raymond</title>
		<link>http://gorey.com.au/archives/170/comment-page-3#comment-48838</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Raymond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 23:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pig symbolises chaos in the book, when the family finally comes together, the pig stops talking.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pig symbolises chaos in the book, when the family finally comes together, the pig stops talking&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
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		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 12:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am reading this book at the moment. Unfortunately, we have to do three pieces of assessment in 11 weeks on Cloudstreet. In my opinion i have to agree with most people, it seems to lack plot and Tim Winton develops the six main characters using a range of different, un-climatic events. This book contains too much text and only a small portion of the book can be analyzed thoroughly before it becomes too boring and pointless. If i ever have to read this book again i will most likely burn the book. Winton needs to write more entertaining books and stop trying to show off his impressive writing skills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am reading this book at the moment. Unfortunately, we have to do three pieces of assessment in 11 weeks on Cloudstreet. In my opinion i have to agree with most people, it seems to lack plot and Tim Winton develops the six main characters using a range of different, un-climatic events. This book contains too much text and only a small portion of the book can be analyzed thoroughly before it becomes too boring and pointless. If i ever have to read this book again i will most likely burn the book. Winton needs to write more entertaining books and stop trying to show off his impressive writing skills.</p>
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		<title>By: jo</title>
		<link>http://gorey.com.au/archives/170/comment-page-3#comment-48480</link>
		<dc:creator>jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i actually HATED this book on first beginning it
but once you get to the end, all the characters are just so beautiful, at it reminds you of the good times in life. 
its is actually very clever. 
i dont think its the best, but you can completely knock it to the ground. 
does it not just remind you of your own families?
of people you know?
do you not just love the characters. 
yeahh, im a convert :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i actually HATED this book on first beginning it<br />
but once you get to the end, all the characters are just so beautiful, at it reminds you of the good times in life.<br />
its is actually very clever.<br />
i dont think its the best, but you can completely knock it to the ground.<br />
does it not just remind you of your own families?<br />
of people you know?<br />
do you not just love the characters.<br />
yeahh, im a convert <img src='http://gorey.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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